tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post1432671682614112234..comments2023-10-29T05:54:30.033-04:00Comments on The Lineal Arboretum: Who Do They Think I Am - A Look At Four Autosomal AnalysesJim Owstonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13489905161227202406noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-83917040817193336382023-09-27T16:21:29.536-04:002023-09-27T16:21:29.536-04:00There are family secrets that. may never be reveal...There are family secrets that. may never be revealed. I was caregiver to my Mom who was 91 when she passed. She did have dementia but in moments of lucidity, she disclosed some family secrets that have me questioning our families and the same goes for past generations. I was surprised by the family secrets she revealed to me, regarding unmarried relatives that just lived together without the sanctity of marriage, relatives that were fathered by somebody other than the husband. At 76, I cane to a realization that our generation isn't any different than all the past generations, so all of the past indiscretions would probably show up in some of our DNA tests. So if you question something you believe to be incorrect just remember, humans are not perfect and family secrets from many past generations could show on your DNA results. My late Father, who had sort of a Mark Twain wit, commented that we could just start with ourselves and leave a blank and just jump back to Adam and Eve. I think where the DNA tests are most helpful is when they reveal medical anomalies, so we can be tested to see if we inherited that anomaly. In my particular case I know my Mom was diagnosed with Familial Cardiomyopathy. So myself, daughter and two granddaughters had to have echo cardigans, which were all negative. I know from my family research that this was passed on from my maternal grandmother's side. So it wasn't unusual to see cousins and 2nd. cousins dying young of this disease. Bottom line is not so much where you came from but if you can take steps and precautions to avoid untimely death. PP Vierahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11026440798528618762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-25918598698384237002014-12-29T17:41:04.172-05:002014-12-29T17:41:04.172-05:00Thanks for the info Kathy. I checked out your blo...Thanks for the info Kathy. I checked out your blog and I am I-M253 (actually further down the haplogroup now) as is your husband and H23 like you. It's a small world. Jim Owstonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13489905161227202406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-65515981156829632332014-12-29T17:09:32.390-05:002014-12-29T17:09:32.390-05:00I tested on 23 and Me. My Ancestry test is process...I tested on 23 and Me. My Ancestry test is processing as I type along with my daughter-in-law who is adopted. They will both be uploaded to FTDNA as soon as it is completed. My Mother tested with Ancestry and her DNA is on FTDNA now and want to test her with 23 and Me. I have also done my Maternal and a Cousin's Paternal, which is my Grandmother's Father's line on FTDNA. I have my autosomal on my blog as well, if you are interested in viewing it. Now I am going to save up for the National Geographic's Project.<br /><br />My Blog: http://matlock-wigleygenealogyresearch.blogspot.com/<br /><br /><br /> <br />Kathy Wigleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15957265557895196825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-18454172200574665362014-07-10T22:13:38.495-04:002014-07-10T22:13:38.495-04:00Debbie: All three have updated their results; how...Debbie: All three have updated their results; however, my estimation still rates 23andMe more like my actual relationship. Jim Owstonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13489905161227202406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-9744931072086274822014-07-02T19:52:00.803-04:002014-07-02T19:52:00.803-04:00I'm just getting ready to purchase an autosoma...I'm just getting ready to purchase an autosomal DNA kit and have been researching everything so I can decide. Do you think your review would be current for today? I don't know if any of the companies have changed their testing or analysis since this blog was written.Debdtexashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13982114673773484431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-65626669388724613762014-05-18T01:09:51.112-04:002014-05-18T01:09:51.112-04:00Your comment confuses me in trying to make a decis...Your comment confuses me in trying to make a decision which company my wife should use. She is overwhelmingly ethnic Finnish (i.e. not from the Swedish speaking Finnish origins) but has one line of ancestors originating from Sweden seven or eight generations back. It is thus important to have a clear differentiation between them. You state 23andMe should show separate Nordic and Finnish categories, but Jim's example shows that is does. Can you clarify what you mean?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-6491188009252183122014-05-18T01:06:49.240-04:002014-05-18T01:06:49.240-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-10238312223202230442013-03-09T11:21:33.311-05:002013-03-09T11:21:33.311-05:00Thanks for the further explanation. Unfortunately,...Thanks for the further explanation. Unfortunately, I don't have an answer for you. I wasn't aware that split view was not working for individuals with both parents having tested. Unfortunately, I only have one parent tested and have not tried it. Jim Owstonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13489905161227202406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-61316769437500387682013-03-09T02:03:15.256-05:002013-03-09T02:03:15.256-05:00I manage an account of someone from Germany who ha...I manage an account of someone from Germany who has many East-European matches. He scores 100% Northern European, but most of his East-European dna matches also score 100% Eastern European. So then where does their common ancestor came from ?<br /><br />For many people WITH BOTH PARENTS tested, Split View does not work.<br /><br />Ancestry Composition is not working properly, especially not for Europeans. 23andme do not care, because their business strategy is focused on the health care market. In time customers will find out that Ancestry Composition does not work properly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-32691625674731246502013-03-08T18:11:51.949-05:002013-03-08T18:11:51.949-05:00If the markers for Northern European and Eastern E...If the markers for Northern European and Eastern European are different, I'm not sure what the problems are. <br /><br />Correct me if I am wrong, but I think in split view you have to have both parents tested. Jim Owstonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13489905161227202406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-16978762263219251752013-03-08T17:07:26.979-05:002013-03-08T17:07:26.979-05:00This is one side of the story;
- 23's Ancest...This is one side of the story; <br />- 23's Ancestry Composition can not distinguish between Northern Euopean and Eastern European. People from Germany get 100% Northern European, while their East-European matches get 100% East-European.........<br />- For many people Split View does not work.<br />- far too little DNA samples from other continentsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-9747647045655877862013-03-08T17:03:29.480-05:002013-03-08T17:03:29.480-05:00Jackie:
Amen to that. It is almost like Beta and ...Jackie:<br /><br />Amen to that. It is almost like Beta and VHS. <br /><br />23andMe should show two Scandinavian categories - one for Scandinavian (i.e., Norse) and one for Finnish. <br /><br />JimJim Owstonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13489905161227202406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-44180715482340430452013-03-08T16:52:31.765-05:002013-03-08T16:52:31.765-05:00Very comprehensive analysis. I've had my autos...Very comprehensive analysis. I've had my autosomal DNA done by three companies and the results disagree widely. Ancestry has me as 63% Scandinavian; 23andMe says 0.99% Scandinavian (Finnish); and Family Tree DNA assigns 12.23% to Tuscan/Finnish/ Romanian/Sardinian but does not break it down. I wish the companies could agree on a standardized reporting system. I contacted Family Tree DNA about the differences. Their answer is that the results do not really vary that much: the companies use different standards. I wish they would agree on one standard so we would be better able to understand and use the information.Jackie's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18443654295537461705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-78544871302626055792013-03-06T21:03:01.275-05:002013-03-06T21:03:01.275-05:00Smaller segments are usually suspect, but at 1% an...Smaller segments are usually suspect, but at 1% and 2%, these probably real. Less than 1%, then it is in the realm of probability. Jim Owstonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13489905161227202406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-19023880140784081382013-03-06T20:21:36.330-05:002013-03-06T20:21:36.330-05:00So it is true that not every percentage someone ge...So it is true that not every percentage someone gets is definite. So the "1% or 2% Native American/East Asian" percentage that every African American gets may not be real after all?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618006501649788054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-10290765790615136762013-03-06T18:02:37.102-05:002013-03-06T18:02:37.102-05:00Thanks Katie. I appreciate it. Thanks Katie. I appreciate it. Jim Owstonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13489905161227202406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-74874245797570014472013-03-06T18:02:16.343-05:002013-03-06T18:02:16.343-05:00Thanks CeCe - you did this before anyone else and ...Thanks CeCe - you did this before anyone else and deserved the mention. Jim Owstonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13489905161227202406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-42184624679179611912013-03-06T17:01:07.765-05:002013-03-06T17:01:07.765-05:00 Excellent job Jim! Going to follow you ( I too am... Excellent job Jim! Going to follow you ( I too am at Geneabloggers) and share your Blog on my other sites.<br />Katiekathlingramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16924287558328676648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-16206085656217815272013-03-06T16:55:50.075-05:002013-03-06T16:55:50.075-05:00Nice analysis Jim! Thank you for the mention too.Nice analysis Jim! Thank you for the mention too.Your Genetic Genealogisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14696248341534125135noreply@blogger.com