tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post7502054332519387030..comments2023-10-29T05:54:30.033-04:00Comments on The Lineal Arboretum: Exogenous Ancestry – Proposing a Replacement for NPEJim Owstonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13489905161227202406noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-83477139990183444512016-12-22T13:35:06.956-05:002016-12-22T13:35:06.956-05:00It really depends what you consider an NPE in the ...It really depends what you consider an NPE in the first place. The parent may be known, but it may not match the surname - hence having Y-DNA that doesn't match the surname. Jim Owstonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13489905161227202406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-68195571164288012962016-12-22T10:03:18.960-05:002016-12-22T10:03:18.960-05:00Why not Not the Parent Expected - NPEs are viewed ...Why not Not the Parent Expected - NPEs are viewed from the genealogist's perspective. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08556028491769882142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-49357277378578326192016-06-16T18:14:48.744-04:002016-06-16T18:14:48.744-04:00I don't like the term NPE either but I suspect...I don't like the term NPE either but I suspect we are stuck with it. I like your suggestion of using the term "exogenous ancestry" to soften the blow of NPEs, but it is too much of a mouthful to ever catch on in general parlance. NPE does benefit from brevity.Debbie Kennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11573470282571579765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-85285682697038227392016-06-15T14:23:00.409-04:002016-06-15T14:23:00.409-04:00To complicate matters, there are many surnames (i....To complicate matters, there are many surnames (i.e., more common, multi-origin) for which there is no single Y-chromosome association; the names encompass a few to hundreds of patrilines. Conversely, there are patrilines (e.g., some Scots) which span many surnames. <br />Whatever term we use needs to allow for these situaitons. <br />-rt_/)https://www.blogger.com/profile/00636339268380858744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-70637394336448274902016-06-15T13:59:13.702-04:002016-06-15T13:59:13.702-04:00Jim, I appreciate your effort to bring some clarit...Jim, I appreciate your effort to bring some clarity to a confusing situation. <br />It seems to me that imagining possible scenarios is less useful than focusing on that which is directly observable -- a decoupling of yDNA and one surname, with re-association to a different surname. How and when this happened may be hidden but the effect can be seen in the present. -rt_/)https://www.blogger.com/profile/00636339268380858744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-90648813102807415562016-06-10T22:14:35.150-04:002016-06-10T22:14:35.150-04:00Thanks Jackie. It happens in all families. I bel...Thanks Jackie. It happens in all families. I believe that we have 32% rate of NPEs er exogenous ancestry in my family. Jim Owstonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13489905161227202406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5946578971422285697.post-59418642534182986742016-06-10T21:10:02.579-04:002016-06-10T21:10:02.579-04:00Great idea Jim! BTW, I was one of those "non-...Great idea Jim! BTW, I was one of those "non-paternity" events - two 17-year-old HS students getting together just after school let out. My mother gave me her surname. Jackie's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18443654295537461705noreply@blogger.com